Please contact me if your father was on the Empress too. I have lots of stories too. A corvette took them to Freetown on the West African Coast. Well I guess your and my Dad could have been sea mates I can't believe at 96 he can still tell his story! He was not a well man and died at 55 which is no surprise as I believe he was torpedeod twice. Coming as it did so soon after the sinking of the Titanic, the loss of the Empress of Ireland underlined the difficulty of building a ship that couldn’t sink, even of building a ship guaranteed to sink so slowly that rescue was inevitable. He and another DEMS sailor managed to put the fire out and save the ship, even though the Captain and crew had abandoned ship. My father Peter was on Empress of Canade and he survived after 3 day and 3 night in the Ocean. he worked in the engine room. He said the Italians all went down with the ship as their door was never unlocked. 22 seems terribly young to die by modern standards, especially from an illness that we, today, would consider easily treatable, but one must remember in those dark days, many tens of thousands died at sea whilst possessing similarly tender years. Thanks. My father Richard Moore (now deceased) was a writer/gunner on HMS Boreas, one of the 4 vessels which picked up survivors. Listing Includes Date Voyage Began, Steamship Line, Vessel, Passenger Class and Route. He was buried at sea - the first of the war. Would love to hear from anyone that was on the boat or had relatives that survived. Empress of Canada. The EMPRESS OF CANADA running her speed trials over the 'Arran Mile' in the Firth of Clyde on 10th March 1961 . "European Marine Developments". He suffered from insomnia the rest of his life...unable to sleep until after the time (midnight or so?) When he returned they decided to get married as soon as possible which they did on 5th June 1943. To then survive the sinking was remarkable. Anyone heard about this French girl ? She spent many weeks in Freetown to recover and then sailed to Glasgow and worked until the end of the war for De Gaulle in London. Empress of Canada (3) 1961: 1972 sold to Carnival Cruise Line, Panama renamed Mardi Gras. My father was on the ship and spoke about her mother and grandmother on the ship. Several months later she met my father in law Aleksander Walczynski at a bus stop in Edinburgh when as a member of the polish free army she was being posted to Duplin castle in Perthshire where Alek was also stationed. Author and historian, Les Streater has written and published over thirty books on various aspects of shipping, as well as editing and producing a number of magazines on shipping and aviation. Is that 13 degrees South, 46 degrees West?? He is buried at AlameinThanks Jen, I am looking but only a few names are listed on the memorial.https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?15464I also gave a facebook page for the canada ship.https://www.facebook.com/empressofcanadasinking/, Was Suzanne's name 'Roquere'? As he was not wearing a life jacket it allowed him to swim unheaded. In the Philippines the Board of Marine Inquiry is to release its report on the sinking of the Sulpicio Line’s ferry Princess Of The Stars, which cost more than 700 lives, while the US National Transportation Safety Board is to release its report of the grounding of the sternwheeler Empress of the North. The morning after the fire: the EMPRESS OF CANADA capsized on her port side, with her funnels smashed against the quay. Pacific Marine Review. He never really talked much about it but did mention shark attacks. Whilst he survived, he never spoke of the experience.Bronek Kowal, Hello Bronek,I have the same issue concerning my late father, Waclaw Franciszek Herzog.From his letters, the locations, descriptions and dates match closely with those of the sinking of The Empress of Canada. Can anyone recognise him as one of the lost crew. This was my great Uncle, I believe. He also has stories of people being taken by sharks, And he remembers being picked up by the ship HMS Borious, and vividly remembers the letters H77 on its side. 19th March, FridayH.M. It was enroute from Durban South Africa to Takoradi, West Africa now Ghana. Ships BOREAS, PETUNIA, and CROCUS returned to Freetown from rescue operations for survivors from S.S. He bought my mum's engagement and wedding ring in NZ when the ship visited NZ to pick up troops. According to Ron nobody said a thing.In all the years I knew him, every summer, he planted Petunia's and Crocus's to commerorate 2 of the rescue ships. My mother in law Maria Paterek as she was then was on the ship when it was torpedoed... she survived on the lifecraft and was picked up by a ship and taken to Liverpool. She was a Polish nurse who had also survived Siberia. They were scared that the sub would shoot them but that didn't happen.He arrived back in Liverpool wearing just his shorts and a singletDad was also torpedoed on HMS Salopian in 1941 and again attacked off Norwegian coast by a German pocket battle ship.Ironically, he joined the Merchant Navy to avoid the army as he thought the army was too dangerous!I haven't got his Merchant Navy Discharge book and don't know the name of the 3rd ship sinking. my grandad was on this ship and he survived. A Polish officer took control of the raft and helped her to survive. I knew Dr Freda Burton Bonner who was returning to UK when it was torpedoed. You would probably have known my father Denis Gent he's 96 now and tells his story, I had the pleasure of being a freind of Captain George Goold's son Ron.He talked a lot about his father and had many stories of his fathers time as Captain in the Empress line.One that sticks to my mind is Ron and his brother George telling us how their father stayed on the bridge until the ship was abandonded and literally walked offthe bridge and into the water.Ron had his father's Captains hat until he passed away in 1980, when it went to his brother George.The best part was how Captain Goold had had his crest sewn on upside down. My father was a Royal Navy gunner in the D.E.M.S. This is a sad episode since along with 3000 British soldiers there were 500 Italian prisoners of war on board. I must mention that my father could not stand the bad treatment the merchant navy sailors received on land (all because they did not wear a military uniform), some of the merchant sailors he served with had been sunk many, many times and still came back for more, even though they did not get paid from the time their ship was sunk! Memorial to the sinking of the Empress of Ireland, Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. She was of course built in Fairfields and the story would start from her days in the yard until her sinking. Empress of Canada sunk 13th March 2017 Les Late on 13th March 1943, Canadian Pacific’s Empress of Canada was hit on the starboard side by a torpedo from the Italian submarine Leonardo da Vinci, and quickly developed a list and lost all power. My Uncle Ernie was returning to the U.K. on the Empress, as his ship (H.M.S. He often spoke of the sinking and seeing many of his mates being taken by sharks. https://nineteenkeys.blogspot.com/2009/05/sinking-of-empress-of-canada.html Her husband died of exhaustion at sea. Entering the coordinates of Location of ship when torpedoed on 13 March 1943position 1-13S, 9-57W1°13'00.0"S 9°57'00.0"Winto https://maps.ngdc.noaa.gov/viewers/bathymetry/gives a depth of 3.928 kminto Google Earth gives a depth of 3.850 km (about 2.4 miles). She was 653 feet long, 21,517grt. I am scanning photos of that time from my dad's old albums. Or just copy paste these coordınates into Google Maps1°13'00.0"S 9°57'00.0"W1°13'00.0"S 9°46'00.0"W. J. Bibber,Thanks a lot for the information on the location of the ship. Owens, thank you for sharing the sad story of your relative who passed away in Empress of Canada, of what seems by modern standards, to be a trivial illness. The Liverpool-bound passenger steamer sank in the turbulent waters of the St. Lawrence River within minutes of being accidently hit on the starboard side by a Norwegian collier in dense fog near Rimouski, Quebec. he also hated water. Given it the note is dated April 1943 I can only assume he got back OK. Did anyone's Dad or Grandad know him?? 1. 1914—Compagnie G6tt6rale Transatlantique inaugurated service between Havre and Montreal. Trying to work out where my father was & when during WW2.I have his diary for all 1944 when he's in Palestine with the Middle East Forces in the RASC Mobile Petrol Filling Company..He went there via South Africa on the Empress of Canada & told us (his family) it was sunk on the return journey. On March 14th 1943, the da Vinci sunk her most notable target, the troopship SS Empress of Canada. )Ernie's brother, Billy, had been lost int he Atlantic some six months earlier. firstname.lastname@example.orgI'm a volunteer researcher for a new heritage centre to be opened in the old offices of Fairfield Shipyard hopefully some time this year. Nov 12, 2016 - Explore David Lapa's board "RMS Empress of Ireland 05/29/1914" on Pinterest. My Uncle, Charles Stephenson was lost on the Empress of Canada, he is mentioned on the memorial at London Tower! My Grandfather, Louis Gold Survived the sinking. The liner had been built in 1922 by Fairfield’s at Govan. She spent approximately three days in the water on a very basic raft made of pieces of wood. Occurring just two years after the RMS Titanic disaster, and a year before the loss of the RMS Lusitania, it is essentially forgotten. Chi ha parenti o genitori che erano sulla nave può contattarmi. 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